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MAN CITY INFO VIA THE ALPS #177DATE Monday 18th March 1996 Two match reports plus two matchviews and plenty of comment on 'that' goal. Anyone who was there will count themselves lucky to have witnessed it, undoubtedly one to tell your grandchildren about! Important were the three points at a very crucial juncture, against the team immediately below us, a dictionary definition of a 6-pointer. More good news is that Kavelashvili is on his way, let's hope that he's as good as he's supposed to be; with the chances we make he could be onto a very good thing. Anyone fancy sending in a Why Blue, we've another good one here but it's the last one I have... all welcome. This one reaches 686 Next game, West Hame United away, Saturday 23rd March 1996MATCH REPORT 'LIVE' MANCHESTER CITY vs. SOUTHAMPTON, Saturday 16th March 1996 Team: Immel, Summerbee, Brightwell, Symons, Curle, Frontzeck (Hiley),
Lomas (Quinn), Flitcroft, Kinkladze, Clough, Rösler. As my season tickets were on loan, I queued up with the rest of a very patient gathering in the almost static lines outside the ticket office. Although we started to queue at 2.05 p.m. we were still about 5 people from the front at 3 o'clock. The word was that lots of scallies were pushing in at the front. Where were the stewards? This interminable wait was briefly abated by an elderly lady handing out leaflets about the Maine Road 'atmosphere'. To summise the leaflet, it basically said 'we don't have an atmosphere any more at Maine Road, do something about it and start singing.' My sentiments entirely. After purchasing a ticket at 3.05 p.m. we found another massive queue to actually gain admission to block P of the North Stand. Eventually at about 3.10 p.m. we walked in to our seats right behind Eike's net (so crap view) to see Neil Shipperley bearing down on us. Kit Symons appeared from nowhere to take it off him though (the first of many sighs of relief). Brightwell at sweeper was doing a good job but it was one way traffic with our defence stifling them when they got near the box. Did anyone notice that Brightwell seemed to have a sort of bouncy blow dry and one of those stupid Robbie Fowler nose jobs (I've read that this tape makes you breathe easier at walking pace but that once you break into a jog you have to breathe 100% through the mouth anyway - maybe we should give one to Uwe :-))? Whatever happened to the supposed trimming down of the squad? With Guiseppe Mazzarelli now included we now have a full squad from numbers 1 to 31 with the exception of Tony Coton's number 1 shirt. Hopefully this will soon be supplemented by Kavalashvila at no.32. There was, however, no place for Mazzerelli in today's squad as we lined up for a game (in which we had to attack) with a sweeper again! The job fell to Ian Brightwell this time and although he did the job admirably, I have to say that this system leaves me squirming in my seat. I mention Mazzerelli because it sounded from the commentary at Chelsea that he may be quite a useful acquisition. Why Hiley on the bench? If AB is not sure about Frontzeck's fitness then Hiley should have been on from the start and this would have freed up another place on the bench. Our first threat came when Gio drifted into the centre and sent a 30 yard thunderbolt against Beasant's bar. On another rare breakaway Flitcroft lashed a ball out to Summerbee who set off down the wing before slipping the ball through to Clough. Beasant could only parry it and Gio had the simple job of tapping it in. 1-0 for us against the run of play. We took heart from the goal and soon after King Kladze went on one of his dribbles. I counted 5 defenders in his wake and his chip to beat Beasant was as cool as you like. Summerbee had a great shot saved and Southampton's only reply was a cross to Le Tissier who should have headed it first time but instead tried to take it on his chest and Symons tidied up. Curle was having a torrid time against Shipperley and frequently gave the ball away. 2-0 at half time and I thought we would abandon the sweeper system and go for another couple of goals at least. We started the 2nd half brightly enough (sweeper still there) and continued to press. Clough put Rösler through for a 1 against 1 but he took it too wide and shot against a defender. Offside anyway. As most of the action started to take place at the other end of the field I'm afraid my view from low down was none too illuminating but with Southampton starting to do all the attacking I feared the worst. Southampton brought on Watson (attacker) for a defender and began to totally overrun us. Has Ball never heard the saying 'the best form of defence is attack'? Sure enough Watson went past Lomas and Frontzeck on the halfway line as if they weren't there and ran directly into the box without a challenge. He passed to Tisdale who calmly knocked it past Eike, giving him no chance. We then started time wasting. Summerbee was booked for delaying a throw in. Then on another occasion Summerbee was pulled up for a foul throw. Southampton took the throw again only for it to be disallowed for another foul throw. Then Summerbee got it back and was penalised for (yes you guessed it) a foul throw. Bizarre. The ref. (Jeff Winter) was very fond of slow motion arm signals with a little flick of the wrist at the end (the first Refereeing Poseur?). He was booking people all over the shop for very minor offences. City's time wasting (with the excruciating ploy of taking the ball to the corner flag included) was rewarded with what seemed like about 10 minutes of stoppage time. During this time Southampton scored again. The linesman had flagged early for a player in an offside position to whom the original ball was aiming for. It didn't reach him and their sub. ran through our defence to slot the ball home. Although it was technically a correct decision, I would have been very annoyed if it had been given against City. My brother was sat with head in hands when I told him it was offside, and with some relief we carried on with our usual 'run of the mill' City heart attacks. How we won this game I don't know. I know some football experts like this system but I for one hate it. I know we need the points but what happened to our flair and enterprise? All I can say is thank God for Georgi. Without him today we would have been buried. And to all those who say we have to start fighting instead of playing football (Paul Hince etc.) all I can say is Bollocks! Final Score: 2-1 Ken Foster (kf737@vossnet.co.uk)MATCH REPORT 'LIVE' MANCHESTER CITY vs. SOUTHAMPTON, Saturday 16th March 1996 Along with everyone else I've found myself using that well-worn cliché "it's a 6-pointer" over the last few days. I was in a 2-pint happy mood when I entered the Kippax but as I took my place I began wondering just what sort of mood I'd be going home in. Southampton started brightly, obviously intent on getting an early goal and taking all 3 points. City were never really troubled with Brightwell playing as a third centre half. City slotted into their passing game and soon opened Southampton up with some tantalising Summerbee crosses which eluded Monkou and unfortunately, Rösler as well. The first magic moment was when Gio side-stepped a defender and unleashed a dipping drive which beat Beasant and crashed against the crossbar... cue applause. The sole danger at our end was a Hall (?) header which was fairly tame and straight at Immel. Their most dangerous striker was new boy Keith Curle who played some unbelievable balls to Le Tissier! Rösler and Hall were booked for a little affray off the ball; Rösler for pushing his chest out after Hall had pushed him in the chest. Frontzeck was frequently up over the halfway line and Buzzer was playing in his usual wing back rôle, even appearing upfield in the middle of the park. He skinned the left back repeatedly but Monkou is a consummate header of the ball and didn't really look like he was going to let Rösler in. Despite this, Rösler looked more dangerous than he has of late. Things got livelier when Clough set up Summerbee whose stinging drive was turned round the post by Beasant. After around 35 minutes we scored after Buzzer once again ran straight at Southampton, passed inside to Clough who shot hard to Beasant's right; he could only parry it and Gio had the simplest of sidefoot tap-ins to score. It was two a matter of minutes later when Kinky decided to take 'em all on on his own; he ran straight at them, skipped past maybe five and arrived in the box with only Beasant to beat. I expected him to slide it underneath the 'keeper but he quite brilliantly scooped at over him to score. One of the best goals I'm ever likely to see but then again, at this rate there'll be another along shortly. At half time it was almost impossible to move in the Kippax as almost everyone watched the replays of the goals on TV. Southampton came out to attack but didn't look too threatening until City inexplicably decided to let them have the midfield. Even then nothing transpired 'til around 65 minutes when Tisdale (allowed to run) received a through ball from Watson and finished in style. City were really dreadful at this stage and it only seemed a matter of time before Southampton scored again. Quinn and Hiley then replaced Lomas and Frontzeck. We started to regain control and forced a few corners. A ludicrous episode occurred after Buzzer was booked for timewasting whilst attempting to take a throw; nobody came to him so you really had to feel sorry for him. A few minutes later he advanced to take a another throw, the ref. blew and gave it to Southampton for stealing some yards. A Southampton player then attempted to take the throw where Buzzer had dropped it; the ref. blew again for taking it from the wrong place. Buzzer steps up to take the throw and the ref. blows again for taking it from the wrong place. Eventually a Southampton player walks up, advances 4 yards and successfully carries out this difficult manouevre! There was high drama in the last few minutes when Robinson scored from a Dodd cross; I couldn't believe it but glanced up to see the linesman's flag waving. The ref. walked over and pronounced the goal offside. He was surrounded by a posse of Southampton players and as Watson retreated he must have mouthed something as the ref. pulled the red card and sent him off. A fan appeared on the pitch, whether City or Southampton I don't know but there was no attempt made to remove him. Watching MotD highlights clearly showed a Southampton player in an offside position beyond Robinson so the linesman definitely made the right decision. When the final whistle blew it was with great relief. Three very valuable points but in truth we should have buried them. One last thing: some Blues on the very top tier of the Kippax unveiled a big blue flag and hung it over the edge of the tier. Nobody's sight was obscured but the 'jobsworth' stewards decided that it had to be removed; have they no discretion or are they just officious; try not to be so petty next time please! AshleyMATCHVIEW I My first visit to Maine Road this season and I was feeling very nervous with 6 points at stake. I was very keen to experience the Kippax for the first time but in the event was unable to get in and only obtained a rather poor Main Stand ticket near to pitch level (I must learn that you have to book in advance these days for top class football!). This was only my second time in the ground since the new stand was opened; last time I was mightily impressed, but this time (perhaps it was the rain?) the reality of the limitations of the ground was apparent. It simply isn't big enough, looks very uneven and even the Kippax doen't look as big the second time around. Still, it was good to see a full house (a few empty seats in the Saints' enclosure). I won't attempt a full match report - my view wasn't good enough - but here are a few thoughts. Since the first games of the season (I saw 2 away games) City have made real progress. After a shaky start in which Curle was a bit ropey, particularly with his distribution, the Blues played some really good football with a lot of one-touch stuff, in the Liverpool style, without the final cutting edge - apart from one Georgi Kinkladze. Southampton weren't in it. Georgi's first was simple enough, tapping in from a Clough shot after a lovely pass from Summerbee, but the second I will count myself fortunate to have witnessed 'live' (here, I'm straining not to get too carried away). Although my seat was a 'poor' one, Georgi's dribble started just in front of me and carried on past 5(?) men before the most exquisite chip over the 'keeper. We were all on our feet before the ball entered the net just knowing we were seeing something special. I can hardly believe our luck in having such a player (at last) who makes you feel that special excitement when he gets possession. The last time I can remember such feelings, well it was a bloody long time ago... Anyway, before the game I had been expecting a real heart-stopper of anxiety and here was half-time approaching, City 2 up and actually looking like getting more! Still there was this nagging doubt... The second half came and things looked comfortable for a bit; the Saints were pressing but didn't look too dangerous until the substitute injected some real fight. He left Frontzeck for dead and before we knew it they had got one back and were suddenly all over us. The familiar City of panicky defence were with us again. A couple of substitutions seemed to steady us until the finale - another of those increasingly long added-time nightmares. When Saints got their 'equaliser' I wasn't too concerned because the linesman right in front of me had his flag up for about 20 seconds before the ball was put in the net. However, watching the T.V. later I had to have some sympathy for them. If that had been a decision against us I would have been a bit aggrieved. Overall, a reasonable performance with one outstanding individual matchwinner. I have some doubts about Immel still (don't we all?) and Frontzeck looks like someone who used to be good but has lost all his pace (Hiley looked better for the short time he was on). Uwe runs his socks off but we need a cutting edge still. Summerbee had one of the best games I've seen him play this season going forward, but defensively I'm not happy with him. Really I should forget all criticisms and say thanks for being there to witness 'that goal'. 'He can do that' said Ball on Match of the Day. I think he needs to learn some new vocabulary because I get the feeling that we will see some more gems like that from Georgi. Peter Kewley (pk@barnlib.demon.co.uk)MATCHVIEW II Being a student based at Portsmouth, I saw City draw 1-1 at The Dell (the night before one of my finals), and win 2-1 yesterday, in my first visit to Maine Road this season. What can you say about Kinkladze? Sheer brilliance. I've never seen anything quite so breathtaking as his second (probably to become legendary - though I do think there's going to be more where that came from). The funny thing was that you could sense he was going to score. I was in the Umbro Stand and it seemed that everyone could sense this was going to be the one, after the nearly efforts against Newcastle. When he picked up the ball and danced round the Southampton defence, the whole stadium held its breath... he was one on one with Beasant, another collective gasp!!! Then he chipped, the ball seemed to go in slow motion, but what a roar!!! The man took a three minute ovation. As for the rest of the match, well I thought Buzzer had a good game and the team dominated most of the first half, except for a shakey few minutes at the start. There is one question though: does Curle always give away the ball so regularly? Only catching most highlights on Sky, I'm not really in position to know. Not that Curle shirks any of his defensive duties but he does seem to adopt a position at the back of midfield as a link man, when passing from wing to wing, and he is not comfortable on the ball in such situations. Time after time Flitcroft, Lomas and Clough would basically have to fetch the ball from Curle, who always seemed to be putting City in danger. It was good to see he and Symons playing with quite an understanding together. Whenever I've seen Kit play at Portsmouth he always looked classy and solid, but never flash, and it seems he's moved up a level and is looking even better. He took a bit of booing from Saints fans at the Dell for being ex-Pompey, so it was nice to beat them, just because their fans are so fickle. After half time City looked decidedly wobbly. Kingkladze was not getting the ball and as a result City just stopped ticking. In fact they only start looking anywhere near their best when the man is involved. After sustained pressure, City caved in and conceded a goal, Curle backing off, and backing off, and backing off... After the goal City looked almost panicky, and Cloughie kept looking over to AB for guidance. In fact City were still asleep after the restart. What they needed at that time was a couple of fireworks up their collective arses. Quinn and Hiley came on for Lomas and Frontzeck, and the match was back to stalemate after things going too much Southampton's way. What was witnessed next was stupid. The ref. Winter made the 'list' already, for booking Uwe for being 'palmed-off' rugby style, and for booking Buzzer for 'looking not to waste a throw in' in a bizarre incident in front of the Kippax which consisted of three (?) foul throws. Winter decided that 45 minutes wasn't enough and Southampton needed more (a bit like QPR vs. Rags). The match got super-competitive and basically the ref. lost control and tried to regain it by dishing out yellow cards. Well Winter, you are a load of 'pants' pal. Teams in relegation battles don't need bookings in time added on, let alone sendings off. The goal was offside, but instead of blowing up, he carried on and sent a player off, which was a terrible decision. I actually felt for the Saints at that point. You don't need refs who get good, competitive players banned just because of their own lack of ability to control a match. Now both teams will have disciplinary problems in a relegation run in, for what was never a dirty game. This problem with referees has to be sorted out. They're having far too much influence on the outcome of the league... if you didn't know better (?), you'd probably say that they're being paid by Ladbrokes, or some other rich source who has a keen interest in the outcome of the Premiership. Anyway here is my team rating: Immel (7) ; must stop kicking the ball to smallest man on the pitch (no. 7).
every goal kick; it puts City under pressure in midfield. Ref: Winter (3) Pants. All in all a great game for two reasons - Kinkladze and three points - well worth the 500 mile drive from Pompey and back, and cost of hire car. I suppose I'm lucky really. The first home game I see this season, and Kinkladze scores a blinder. Maybe I'm good luck... Yours, still estatic, Dan Manton (manton@bay-o-net.co.uk)NEWS - RAG TICKETS Bernard Halford was in the programme and in the MEN speaking out against some City fans who have been selling ticket stubs to touts outside Maine Road who will then undoubtedly go on to use them to buy tickets for the derby. Halford has now introduced more restrictions to beat them; applicants will have to show their membership cards and all the names on the ticket stubs must match the membership card. AshleyNEWS - LIVERPOOL MATCH REARRANGED According to the ticketcall line, our last game of the season (Liverpool at home) has been moved forward a day to the Sunday with a 4pm kick off. And that can only mean one thing. Yes our Friends at Sky T.V. will be joining us! James Fleming (James@mcfc.u-net.com)NEWS - KAVELASHVILI Georgian striker Mikhail Kavelashvili has agreed to join City; the fee will be paid in instalments depending on the number of appearances he makes and could total £1.4 million. City now face a race to get him signed and registered with a work permit before the transfer deadline on March 28th. Paul Howarth (paul@wg.icl.co.uk)NEWS - ABAZAJ Albanian defender Eduard Abazaj has returned to Benfica after failing to break into the first team during his two-month loan period at City. Paul Howarth (paul@wg.icl.co.uk)NEWS - KAVELASHVILI & QUINN City have confirmed that the Kavelashvili deal is definitely going to go through and they have been assured that that his work permit will be processed before the March 28 deadline. Great news! Speculation surrounds the future of Niall Quinn at the club; Sunderland are one of a number of clubs still interested in the big Irishman whose place at City must now be in serious doubt. Garry Flitcroft's booking on Saturday means that he now faces his third suspension of the season. Alan Ball was in a good enough mood to joke about it: "if we had as many points as Garry we'd be in Europe already" he quipped. The MoleWWW QUESTION PAGE I would like to announce the questionnaire page on the City-WWW: http://www.uit.no/mancity/quiz/ The page may change its layout to become more like the Predictions League, but for starters check out your knowledge about City by answering this week's question. Svenn Hanssen (svenn@hanssen.priv.no)KINKLADZE THE GREAT Peter Ball (no relation I hope) summed it up in The Times: "If Southampton felt hard done by, when their resentment has cooled they might acknowledge that they were beaten by the goal of the season - or any other season - from Georgi Kinkladze ... (his) second was sheer fantasy, with three or four defenders left tackling thin air as he weaved through to face Beasant. The finish matched the approach, a little chip mixing cheek and artistry in equal proportions."David Yates, Maldon UK (david@yates.dungeon.com) COMPUTER PREDICTION! Since my job here at Cornell University involves the daily use of some of the most powerful computers in the world, including the Cray T3D parallel processing machine, I thought I'd take the opportunity to run a simulation of the rest of the season in the Premiership. The Model: Each player on each team was rated by seven variable parameters involving experience, previous performance at this stage of the season, recent form, long term form, ability to perform under pressure, rôle in the team, and a combination of other random and extrapolated statistics. These values were then combined with those of the other team members and additional factors included such as club stability, the referee and linesmen (including subs where necessary), projected weather patterns and the predicted spread of flu and stomach viruses in the British Isles over the next two months. Each remaining game for each team was then played out in 5 minute segments and all the results compiled into a final table. Results: The program took 14 hours (just over) to run when spread across 64 processors and required almost 22 Mwords of memory. Unfortunately I think I made a mistake in the code because City ended up with -2.34 points for the season and came 6th. Conclusion: Massively parallel processing was not shown to be useful for predicting the outcome of football games and my time would have been much better spent writing an important report for my boss - so I just made some wild guesses and have City finishing with 36 points, above Coventry (34), Wimbledon (32), QPR (28) and Bolton (25). Mike Maddox (maddox@cheme.cornell.edu)ONTARIO BLUES? I just want to ask if any Blues in the Southern Ontario area would like to get together to watch the Derby match on April 6th. I live in London but can easily get to Toronto or Windsor or anywhere inbetween. Presumably the match will be on satellite somewhere. Please e-mail me. Stuart Barlow (sbarlow@julian.uwo.ca)RUSSIAN VIEW Hope this is of some interest. I got this from the Russian Football Info Service. Good to see Kinky making the headlines. © 1996 Copyright Nando.net Cantona and Kinkladze delighting two halves of Manchester LONDON (Mar 16, 1996 - 18:15 EST) - The histories of Manchester United and Manchester City sparkle with great players born a long way from Old Trafford and Maine Road. The incomparable Denis Law, who played for both clubs in his illustrious career, was born in Scotland. So was Sir Matt Busby, who played for City in the 1930s and built Manchester United into the finest club in the land after taking over as manager in 1945. The list is long and familiar -- George Best of Northern Ireland, Billy Meredith, Ryan Giggs and Roy Paul of Wales, Martin Buchan and Joe Jordan of Scotland, Bert Trautmann and Uwe Rösler of Germany have all worn the red of United and light blue of City in the past. There are countless others. But rarely have two adopted Mancunian sons ever made such an impact as Eric Cantona of France and United and Georgi Kinkladze of Georgia and City. Both delighted their respective fans again on Saturday. Cantona scored a last minute header to give United a 1-1 draw at Queen's Park Rangers which took them to the top of the English Premier League. It was his third vital goal in three games following his winner against Newcastle on March 4 and the opener against Southampton in an F.A. Cup quarter-final on Monday which United went on to win 2-0. Kinkladze, whose wonderful dribbling skills and accuracy in front of goal have made him a contender for this season's English Footballer of the Year, scored both goals as City beat Southampton 2-1 in a crucial relegation clash. A month ago Kinkladze -- a bargain at only £2.0 million ($3.05 million) from Dynamo Tblisi last year -- produced the kind of ball control rarely seen in the English league these days, mesmerising three Newcastle defenders at once. On Saturday he did it again. After already scoring once, Kinkladze somehow threaded his way through a posse of Southampton defenders before beating goalkeeper Dave Beasant with a delicately lifted shot. His manager Alan Ball could hardly contain his delight afterwards. "That goal was the closest I've seen to the one Diego Maradona scored -- not the handball -- against England in the World Cup. "You can't use enough superlatives about him. People ask why we are bringing these types of players to this country. If that's not the answer, nothing is." Although City are 15th and have had a disappointing season, Kinkladze has been a revelation, creating much of City's forward play. Sergey Ukladov Tony Farrar (T.Farrar@lmu.ac.uk)OPINION - BROOKING'S COMMENTS Trevor Brooking was talking nonsense on Match of the Day - there is no way Southampton were cheated on Saturday. I know that as a fanatical Blue I am hardly impartial in this, but I really do think the referee made the right decision. The Southampton player in the offside position (can't remember who he was) first of all drew Symons towards him as Southampton pushed forward. Then as Watson's cross came in, Summerbee was caught between two stools - having to watch the offside player and the guy coming in to score. So he was interfering with play. He was in a critical area of the play, affecting the City players around him. Having said that, City should never have been hanging on like they were. They really should have won by three or four the way they played in the first half. I think if AB could somehow get them to concentrate better after taking the lead - and after the half-time break - we would be a lot nearer to having a very good side. He has to make players like Flitcroft and Lomas get hold of the game by the scruff of the neck, keep possession and, in Lomas's case, pass it far better. I thought Symons had a cracking game but Gio was just out of this world. I've been watching City for nearly 30 years and he has to be one of the best players I've seen in the blue shirt - if not the best. I remember when I was a youngster how quickly legends like Lee, Bell and Summerbee seemed to reach the end of their careers - and how depressing that was. I just say to City fans, savour every second of this lad's football while he's around. He is an absolute genius - a fantastic find by Lee. By the way, someone described Lee Dixon as their most annoying player. I hope they realise that, as a youngster, Dixon was (and apparently still is) a big City fan. Keith Hursthouse (Keith@hurstnet.demon.co.uk)OPINION - KINKS, YOU REALLY GOT ME GOIN' What more can you say - the boy's a genius. Without doubt that is the best goal I have ever seen - it literally took my breath away (or was that the weather?). Sitting in row two in the Kippax isn't really a good idea when it's throwing it down with rain - my two companions for the day were none too pleased with the wet seats at all. However, the angry looks and "hey good seats Jon, cheers!" comments soon disappeared when we went one up. Five minutes later Kinks gets the ball, glues it to his foot and starts his run towards Dave Beasant. The result was quite possibly the Goal Of The Season, and a big let-off for me. After a goal like that who cares about the cold and the rain - nice one Kinky!! The rest of the game was a bit of an anti-climax - I think most people were sensing a Kinkladze treble and something of a rout. This was not to be; indeed we were a bit lucky to get all three points - but then again we've been due a large slice of luck all season. Always Blue (and still drooling over that goal), Jon Walsh (jmw1@basil.acs.bolton.ac.uk)OPINION - HALFORD Re the comments on Bernard Halford refusing permission for the student filming at Maine Road; for info, he's always been a miserable sod due to the charisma bypass at birth. He has almost single-handedly been in charge of the Man City Sales Prevention committee for many years, but what can you expect from a guy who has always considered his sport of Crown Green Bowling to be more manly than soccer? Whilst on the subject of ugly characters, Ian Ure (The Screaming Skull) took ugliness to the limit, a true King. Others who spring to mind, Mike Pejic ex Stoke, John Wark, Kevin Beattie after he set fire to his head one Bonfire night (sorry about that) and Alan Brazil. In fact Ipswich scared a few teams off in the 80s and when you consider relatively unoffensive faces in their team included Paul Mariner, Terry Butcher and Eric Gates it's no real surprise... Actually I've just had second thoughts... Eric Gates was definitely a very offensive face... Regards and best wishes to all, Keep Dreaming... Wythenshawe Exile - Leo Fewtrell (leo50@emirates.net.ae)OPINION - FOREIGN PLAYERS I would not argue with the fact that foreign players add colour, flair and an imagination beyond that of our British born players but I believe things may be going a little too far. Bringing in the cream of foreign talent yes... bringing in complete unknowns from second rate foreign leagues NO!!! Who is Giuseppe "Cheesy" Mazzarelli? I live in Switzerland and have yet to find anybody here who knows of him. IMHO bringing in such players does limit the chances of home born talent getting a chance and can only damage our game. And how many City fans would want to watch a team with no English born players? I hope "cheesy" turns out to be Gio mark II but I fear we have another Ingebrigtsen on our hands. PS Don't know if any other foreign MCIVTA members have noticed this but there's a definite surge of interest in City thanks to Oasis... good work fellas! Get the shirt sponsorship deal signed now! Jeff Hall (jeffrey_r.hall@chbs.MHS.CIBA.COM)OPINION - REALITY Let's stop fooling ourselves, come August we will be watching a second division team. It's no use trying to look on the bright side, City are going down. Now I admit that it kills me to say this but looking at the table, with us just two points ahead of Soton and having played three more games than them does not make our cause look too healthy now does it? Saying this I don't think that it will have the major effect that everyone seems to think. Look at Forest a few years ago, everyone said that they were too good to go down and blow me what happened, bang!! They didn't do too badly though did they? They came back up at the first attempt and got a place in Europe. Hopefully I'll be made to eat my words, But I'm resigned to the fact that City are gone, and hopefully the players at Maine Road are man enough to stay and fight to get back into the Premiership. PS Gio for Player of the Year Paul Coleman (pcl@staffmail.rtc-tallaght.ie)OPINION - REFEREEING DECISIONS I am writing regarding the City vs. Southampton game; I am alarmed at how the referees appear to gain so much of the spotlight during games. There were so many stupid bookings for small offences. Remember several years ago when refs used their own discretion; if you compare the amount of bookings in a season compared with nowadays there must be a big difference. Anyway, what a goal by Kinkladze, absolutely world class in front of a good crowd. I hope that against West Ham we can come away with something. Martin Mosley (mgm7@student.open.ac.uk)OPINION - MEDIA BIAS You know, England's not the only place where the press love Man U. In Sydney, weekend radio focused on how Utd were at the top of the table courtesy of the "flamboyant Frenchman" etc. and then ignored all other results and the fact that Newcastle had games in hand anyway. It seems that a lot of the media are like this. Why? George Larcos (NGL@imag.wh.su.edu.au)OPINION - VIEW FROM KIPPAX STREET In reply to Heather's comment in MCIVTA 173, there are in fact, sad anorak fact that it is, 21 English League and Conference teams with different 'surnames', so teams like Accrington Stanley and Boreham Wood cannot be accepted. If anybody can send in all 21, I will send them a specially arranged anorak prize. Rush Bring him to the Acadamy... forget Leeds mate, come and play some real footie. Actually, I think that if we chased him we would stand a chance of landing him, especially with the service that Cloughie and Gio could give him. Lets start a petition... all answers on a piece of used Bog roll addressed to Franny please. Meet up... Did somebody say there would be a meet up before the 'Pool game? If so more details please... also, is anybody going to West Ham next Saturday that would like to meet up before the game. If so let me know direct please. Anyway must go I'm in the middle of a lecture here, Oh by the way... the football team I play for, BIT Eindhoven, won the Anchor Cup Final on Wednesday... 2-1, stunning victory. Autographs later... Gareth Foster (9279369x@mmu.ac.uk)MCIVTA Meet is before the Sheffield Wednesday game AshleyOPINION - WHY MARTIN SHOULD BUY! If City were to make any progress the next few seasons, would you really dare to miss it? Are you going to be one of those fans who sign on for next season after we've won something? I know I'm not a season ticket holder myself, but taken the geographical obstacle, it almost qualifies. I've watched City live at Maine Road only once. It cost me over £500 and was the sole purpose of my journey! Svenn Hannsen (svenn@hanssen.priv.no)KIWI FOOTBALL As an ex-player in the New Zealand National League, I feel I must write some sort of explanation as to the behaviour of the Waikato team as reported by Roger (Roger, next time I'm in London let's have a beer and discuss the intelligence of Kiwi rugby players). I played for Hutt Valley United and New Plymouth City (a little irony creeping in here) during my days in the league. These cities are quite far from Auckland and the South Island, so a lot of air travel was necessary. Flights between certain cities in New Zealand are fairly infrequent, so sometimes you had a longish wait after a game before you fly home. Couple with this the fact that most match payment/bonuses were received in a brown paper packet in the clubrooms directly after the game with the intent that a lot of this cash would be pumped straight back into NZ football via the clubroom bar - which it invariably is. So, you put the equation together: No food since 11am plus 90 minutes of hard work plus extra cash and only 1 place to spend it plus 3 or 4 hours to kill equals a very inebriated bunch of young(ish) blokes showing up for a flight. We had a few "entertaining" flights during my time. We had one guy who used to get up and do the safety instruction routine which most of the other passengers found amusing too. We never got close to Waikato's antics but unfortunate "civilians" caught in seats amongst us were normally relocated unless they learned and participated in our sing-alongs. Certainly our beloved Blues didn't get up to nearly as much as we did on our away trips - but on the other hand, football in NZ has nearly no profile to speak of. In all actuality, Waikato's team have probably gained more respect for footballers by NZ's rugby dominated sporting population!! Maybe City should recruit Waikato as their farm team in NZ à la Cork City! Surely a worthy adversary? PS. Save a place on the MCIVTA team's bench for me! The Blue Nationalised Kiwi living in Singapore - Steve Slack (sslack@netgate.compaq.com)WHY BLUE? My family, being Irish catholics, is very large and growing up with 6 brothers, football and sport in general, was a part of my life. Every Sunday afternoon we would trudge over to Boggart Hole Clough (Where?!!) and "football" 'til we dropped. I remember supporting Liverpool at one point - but let me say in my defence - I am the youngest of 10, my mum used to call me "scrapings of the pot" - so maybe I had Irish stew for brains!! My first visit to Maine Road was as a young girl with my sister and my uncle, who was over here on a visit from Ireland. We beat West Ham 2-0 and I recall sitting in the North Stand, but where they usually put the away fans now - where did they put them that day? (perhaps being southerners they felt more at home at OT?). I had a pie, my uncle threw me in the air when the Blues scored and my pie was never seen again!! I went again with my sister (same one), my brother-in-law and my nephew. Outside the ground a young lad asked if he could mind the car; my brother-in-law said "No, it's alright, it has an alarm", to which the young lad replied "Yeah, but does it put out fires?" We drew against Tottenham and my brother-in-law never went again! Although I didn't go again for a while myself, I followed City's progress/demise every week. It was then that I met up with Tony and myself and Maine Road resumed our acquaintance. Why Blue? City remind me of an "old" friend of mine (sorry Ann-Maree!!) - we plan a night out weeks in advance, where we will go, what we will do and then bam! right at the last minute she phones to say she can't make it. Disappointed, I put the phone down but I know that when we do get together we always have one hell of a night! Take the City vs. Geordies match, we go at it from the off and take the lead - they get one back. We do it all over again - they get one back - you all know the rest! But at the end of the match, you know, come hell or high water, Premier League or Conference League (OK - maybe not that extreme!!), we all have a bitch, a moan and maybe the occasional laugh, we'll all be out there the week after shouting and supporting them all the more. Before I go has anyone any spare tickets for the Bolton match? The ticket office says out of an allocation of 3,000 there are 1,000 left but can't say when they go on open sale. Willing to pay face value. Contact Tony 247-1807 or Helen 247-1845 (daytime). Stay True! Stay Blue! Helena Murtagh (H.Murtagh@mmu.ac.uk)BLUE HUMOUR I As you might remember City didn't put up too good a performance last week in Ireland. This prompted the following joke in Athlone Town's match programme this weekend:
(Lifted from the LOIsoccer list with thanks to Darragh) Eugene Montague (ecmontag@sas.upenn.edu)BLUE HUMOUR II How many Rags does it take to change a light bulb? RESULTS Saturday, March 16 1996 COVENTRY CITY 0-2 BOLTON WANDERERS 17,226 LIVERPOOL 2-0 CHELSEA 40,820 MANCHESTER CITY 2-1 SOUTHAMPTON 29,550 MIDDLESBROUGH 1-1 NOTTINGHAM FOREST 29,392 QUEENS PARK RANGERS 1-1 MANCHESTER UNITED 18,817 SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY 2-0 ASTON VILLA 22,964 TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 2-3 BLACKBURN ROVERS 32,387 WIMBLEDON 0-3 ARSENAL 18,335 Sunday, March 17 1996 LEEDS UNITED 2-2 EVERTON 29,425 Sun 17 Mar Team Played Won Drawn Lost For Against Points Manchester United 30 18 7 5 57 30 61 Newcastle United 28 19 4 5 52 26 61 Liverpool 30 17 8 5 60 26 59 Aston Villa 31 16 7 8 46 30 55 Arsenal 30 14 9 7 42 27 51 Everton 31 13 9 9 48 34 48 Blackburn Rovers 31 14 6 11 47 36 48 Tottenham Hotspur 29 13 9 7 37 28 48 Chelsea 31 11 11 9 36 34 44 Nottingham Forest 29 11 11 7 39 40 44 West Ham United 30 12 6 12 35 39 42 Leeds United 29 11 6 12 35 42 39 Middlesbrough 31 9 8 14 29 42 35 Sheffield Wednesday 30 8 8 14 41 49 32 Manchester City 31 7 9 15 24 45 30 Coventry City 30 5 12 13 37 55 27 Wimbledon 30 6 9 15 42 61 27 Southampton 28 5 10 13 28 42 25 Queens Park Rangers 31 6 5 20 27 49 23 Bolton Wanderers 30 6 4 20 31 58 22With thanks to Soccernet WWW MANCHESTER CITY SUPPORTERS' HOME PAGE: http://www.uit.no/mancity/ MCIVTA ADDRESSES: Contributions: mcivta@tollbar.u-net.com Subscriptions: Adam.Houghton@sheffield.ac.uk Thanks to Helena, James, Gareth, Paul (x2), Steve, Leo, Svenn, Martin, Ken, Keith, Peter, George, Eugene, Mike, Jon, Dan, Nizam, Tony, Stuart, The Mole & David. DISCLAIMER The views expressed in MCIVTA are entirely those of the subscribers and there is no intention to represent these opinions as being those of Manchester City Football Club, nor of any of the companies and universities by whom the subscribers are employed. It is not in any way whatsoever connected to the club or any other related organisation and is simply a group of supporters using this medium as a means of disseminating news and exchanging opinions. Ashley Birch, mcivta@tollbar.u-net.com |